Mastering the Japanese Counter ~台 (dai): Machines, Vehicles, and Appliances
Use ~台 for anything with a motor, a screen, or wheels—it's the 'tech and transport' counter.
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Use ~台 (dai) for machines, electronics, and vehicles with wheels.
- It works for cars, computers, TVs, washing machines, and even pianos.
- The formation is simple: Number + dai (no irregular sounds).
- Avoid using it for small non-mechanical items, animals, or people.
Quick Reference
| Number | Kanji + Counter | Reading | Typical Item |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1台 | ichidai | Car / PC |
| 2 | 2台 | nidai | Bicycle / TV |
| 3 | 3台 | sandai | Camera / Bed |
| 4 | 4台 | yondai | Washing Machine |
| 5 | 5台 | godai | Piano / Tablet |
| 8 | 8台 | hachidai | Motorcycle / Printer |
Key Examples
3 of 8うちには車が二台あります。
There are two cars at my house.
新しいパソコンを一台買いました。
I bought one new computer.
この学校にはピアノが三台あります。
There are three pianos in this school.
The 'Plug-in' Rule
If the object has a power cord or needs a battery to function, there is a 90% chance it uses `~台`. It's a great shortcut for beginners!
Don't count the small stuff
While a laptop is `~台`, a tiny USB mouse or a pair of headphones usually isn't. Use `~個` (ko) for those smaller accessories.
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Use ~台 (dai) for machines, electronics, and vehicles with wheels.
- It works for cars, computers, TVs, washing machines, and even pianos.
- The formation is simple: Number + dai (no irregular sounds).
- Avoid using it for small non-mechanical items, animals, or people.
Overview
Welcome to the wonderful world of Japanese counters! If you have ever felt like Japanese has a specific word for counting literally everything, you are right. Today, we are tackling ~台 (pronounced 'dai'). This is your go-to counter for anything mechanical, electronic, or wheeled. Think of it as the 'machine' counter. Whether you are talking about the car in your driveway or the laptop on your desk, ~台 is the star of the show. It is one of the most useful counters for modern life. It is also surprisingly easy to learn because it does not have those pesky phonetic changes that other counters (like ~本 or ~匹) have. It is consistent, reliable, and very common. Let's dive in and see how you can start using it today!
How This Grammar Works
In Japanese, you cannot just say 'one car' or 'two computers' using just the number. You need a counter. The structure is usually [Noun] + [Particle] + [Number] + [Counter]. For example, if you want to say 'two cars,' you would say kuruma ga nidai. It feels a bit like saying 'two units of cars' in English. You can also place the number and counter before the noun with the particle no, like nidai no kuruma, but the first way is much more common in daily conversation. Unlike some other counters that change their sounds (like ichiyuu becoming ippon), ~台 stays exactly the same no matter what number comes before it. This makes it a great 'confidence booster' grammar point. Even native speakers appreciate when you use the correct counter, as it makes your Japanese sound much more natural and polished.
Formation Pattern
- 1Forming
~台is as easy as counting to ten. You just take the standard Chinese-style numbers (ichi, ni, san...) and adddaito the end. There are no irregular readings here, which is basically a grammar miracle! - 2
ichidai(one machine) - 3
nidai(two machines) - 4
sandai(three machines) - 5
yondai(four machines) - Note: Useyon, notshi. - 6
godai(five machines) - 7
rokudai(six machines) - 8
nanadai(seven machines) - Note:nanadaiis more common thanshichidai. - 9
hachidai(eight machines) - 10
kyuudai(nine machines) - Note: Usekyuu, notku. - 11
juudai(ten machines)
When To Use It
You will use ~台 for a huge variety of items. If it has a motor, a screen, or complex internal parts, it probably takes ~台.
- Vehicles: Cars (
kuruma), bicycles (jitensha), motorcycles (baiku), and even buses or trucks. If it has wheels and moves people, use~台. - Electronics: Computers (
pasokon), televisions (terebi), cameras (kamera), and printers. - Household Appliances: Washing machines (
sentakuki), refrigerators (reizouko), and microwave ovens (renji). - Large Musical Instruments: This is a fun one! Pianos (
piano) and organs use~台because they are seen as large, complex mechanical structures. - Furniture (Sometimes): Large items like beds (
beddo) often use~台, though some people use~つfor smaller furniture. When in doubt with a big bed,~台is a safe bet.
Imagine you are at a car rental desk. You might say, kuruma o nidai kashite kudasai (Please rent me two cars). Or if you are at an electronics store, you might ask, kono pasokon wa ichidai ikura desu ka? (How much is one of these computers?). It is a very practical counter for shopping and logistics.
When Not To Use It
Even though ~台 covers a lot, it is not for everything.
- Small Handheld Items: While computers use
~台, small items like smartphones (sumaho) can be tricky. Many people use~台for smartphones because they are 'machines,' but for very small gadgets like a USB stick or a simple calculator, people often revert to the general counter~つor~個(ko). - Non-Mechanical Items: Do not use it for books, clothes, or food.
- Living Things: Never use
~台for people or animals. That would be like calling your cat a toaster, which might offend the cat. - Boats and Planes: While these are vehicles, they often have their own special counters (
~sekifor ships and~kifor planes). However, in casual speech, you might hear~台for small drones or toy planes.
Common Mistakes
The biggest mistake is over-relying on the general counter ~つ. While ~つ is a great safety net, using ~つ for a car sounds a bit childish. It is like a traffic light; if you use the wrong color, things get confusing! Another mistake is trying to apply the 'small item' rule to things like cameras. Even a tiny digital camera is a complex machine, so stick with ~台. Also, watch your pronunciation of 'four.' Stick to yondai. Saying shidai sounds very strange and might be confused with other words. Finally, remember that ~台 is for the *unit* itself. If you are counting the *wheels* on the car, that is a different counter entirely!
Contrast With Similar Patterns
You might get ~台 confused with ~個 (ko) or ~枚 (mai).
~台vs~個:~個is for small, round, or compact objects (like an apple or a small box).~台is for functional machines. A microwave is~台, but the bowl inside it is~個.~台vs~枚:~枚is for flat, thin objects. A TV is~台because it is a machine, but the screen protector you put on it is~枚because it is a flat sheet.~台vs~機(ki):~機is used for large aircraft or industrial machinery. For your home printer, use~台. For a Boeing 747, use~機.
Quick FAQ
Q. Can I use ~台 for a bicycle?
A. Yes! Even though it doesn't have a motor, it's a wheeled machine.
Q. What about a smartphone?
A. Yes, ~台 is the standard counter for mobile phones and tablets.
Q. Is it okay to use ~台 for a bed?
A. Yes, it is very common to count beds with ~台 in hotels or furniture stores.
Q. Do I need to change the sound for 3 or 6?
A. Nope! It's always just sandai and rokudai. Easy, right?
Reference Table
| Number | Kanji + Counter | Reading | Typical Item |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1台 | ichidai | Car / PC |
| 2 | 2台 | nidai | Bicycle / TV |
| 3 | 3台 | sandai | Camera / Bed |
| 4 | 4台 | yondai | Washing Machine |
| 5 | 5台 | godai | Piano / Tablet |
| 8 | 8台 | hachidai | Motorcycle / Printer |
The 'Plug-in' Rule
If the object has a power cord or needs a battery to function, there is a 90% chance it uses `~台`. It's a great shortcut for beginners!
Don't count the small stuff
While a laptop is `~台`, a tiny USB mouse or a pair of headphones usually isn't. Use `~個` (ko) for those smaller accessories.
Pianos are Machines
In Japan, pianos are traditionally viewed as complex mechanical equipment. Don't be surprised to hear a grand piano counted with the same word as a bulldozer!
Consistency is King
Unlike other counters, `~台` never changes its sound. `ichidai`, `rokudai`, `juudai`—it's always just 'dai'. Use this to your advantage to sound fluent quickly.
Exemples
8うちには車が二台あります。
Focus: 二台
There are two cars at my house.
Standard placement: Noun + ga + Number + Counter.
新しいパソコンを一台買いました。
Focus: 一台
I bought one new computer.
Used for modern tech like laptops.
この学校にはピアノが三台あります。
Focus: 三台
There are three pianos in this school.
Pianos are counted as large machines.
ホテルにベッドを五台注文しました。
Focus: 五台
I ordered five beds for the hotel.
Beds are often counted with ~台 in commercial contexts.
弊社はトラックを五十台所有しております。
Focus: 五十台
Our company owns fifty trucks.
Works perfectly for large fleet counts.
✗ 車が二つあります。 → ✓ 車が二台あります。
Focus: 二台
I have two cars.
Using 'tsu' for cars sounds very basic/childish.
✗ テレビが三枚あります。 → ✓ テレビが三台あります。
Focus: 三台
There are three TVs.
TVs are machines (~台), not just flat sheets (~枚).
工場でロボットが十台動いています。
Focus: 十台
Ten robots are operating in the factory.
Robots are the ultimate ~台 items.
Test Yourself
Choose the correct counter for a bicycle.
庭に自転車が二___あります。
Bicycles have wheels and are mechanical, so we use ~台.
You are buying 4 laptops. Which is correct?
ノートパソコンを___買いたいです。
For 4 machines, we always say 'yondai'.
Which item does NOT use ~台?
___が五台あります。
Shirts are flat/clothing, so they use ~枚 (mai), not ~台.
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Visual Learning Aids
Dai vs. Others
Should I use ~台?
Does it have wheels or a motor?
Is it a large musical instrument like a piano?
Use ~台!
Common ~台 Items by Location
Garage
- • Car
- • Motorcycle
- • Bicycle
Office
- • Computer
- • Printer
- • Copier
Kitchen
- • Fridge
- • Microwave
- • Toaster
Frequently Asked Questions
20 questionsYes, ~台 is the standard counter for smartphones and mobile devices. You would say sumaho o ichidai motte imasu (I have one smartphone).
Always use ~台 for cars. For example, kuruma ga nidai means 'two cars'.
Yes, even though it doesn't have a motor, a bicycle is a wheeled vehicle. You count them as jitensha ga sandai.
Absolutely. Since it's an electronic device with a screen, ~台 is the perfect choice.
You say yondai. Make sure to use yon and not shi for the number four.
No, ~台 is very regular. It is simply ichidai for one and hachidai for eight.
It is juudai. Some people might say jisshuu in very formal settings, but juudai is the standard.
Yes, kitchen appliances like microwaves (renji) and refrigerators (reizouko) use ~台.
Yes, cameras are considered mechanical devices. You would say kamera ga ichidai.
Drones are counted with ~台 because they are flying machines. doron ga nidai.
Yes, beds are a common exception where furniture is counted with ~台. beddo ga nidai.
Actually, watches are usually counted with ~個 (ko) because they are small personal items, or ~本 (hon) because of the strap shape.
While ~台 is for ground vehicles, airplanes usually use ~機 (ki). However, ~台 is sometimes used for toys.
No, string instruments like guitars usually use ~本 (hon) because of their long necks. Pianos are the main instrument exception for ~台.
People will still understand you, but it sounds like 'child-speak.' Using ~台 makes you sound like an adult speaker.
Yes! Robots are the ultimate machines, so they are always counted with ~台.
You ask nandai (何台). For example: kuruma wa nandai arimasu ka? (How many cars are there?)
Yes, elevators and escalators are counted with ~台 because they are large mechanical installations.
Yes, game consoles are electronic machines, so ~台 is the correct counter.
Usually no. Ships use ~隻 (seki). ~台 is mostly for land-based machines and vehicles.
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