Postposition का oblique before postpositions: के
When a masculine possessed object gets a postposition, 'ka' must transform into 'ke' to agree with it.
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Use 'ke' when postpositions follow.
- Replaces 'ka' for masculine nouns.
- Essential for compound words like 'ke saath'.
- Triggered by the 'Oblique Case' domino effect.
Quick Reference
| Case | Gender | Pattern | Example |
|---|---|---|---|
| Direct | Masc | Noun + ka + Noun | Ram ka ghar (Ram's house) |
| Oblique | Masc | Noun + ke + Noun + Postposition | Ram ke ghar men (In Ram's house) |
| Compound | N/A | Noun + ke + [Compound] | Ram ke liye (For Ram) |
| Plural | Masc | Noun + ke + Nouns | Ram ke dost (Ram's friends) |
| Mistake | Masc | Noun + ka + Noun + Postposition | Ram ka ghar men (INCORRECT) |
| Fem (Contrast) | Fem | Noun + ki + Noun + Postposition | Ram ki car men (In Ram's car) |
주요 예문
3 / 8मैं राहुल के घर में हूँ।
I am in Rahul's house.
यह चाय पापा के लिए है।
This tea is for father.
मेरे दोस्त के भाई को बुलाओ।
Call my friend's brother.
The 'Block' Method
Treat phrases like `ke liye` (for) or `ke saath` (with) as single blocks of vocabulary. Don't translate `ke` separately. Just memorize: `Mere liye` = For me.
Feminine Immunity
Feminine nouns are immune to the 'Ke' virus. Even with postpositions, `ki` stays `ki`. Example: `Ram ki car men` (In Ram's car).
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Use 'ke' when postpositions follow.
- Replaces 'ka' for masculine nouns.
- Essential for compound words like 'ke saath'.
- Triggered by the 'Oblique Case' domino effect.
Overview
Meet the shapeshifter of Hindi grammar: ka. You probably know ka shows possession, like saying "Ram's car" or "the book of the student." But ka is a bit of a chameleon. It changes its colors depending on what happens next in the sentence. Specifically, we are talking about when ka turns into ke. This isn't random. It happens for a very specific reason. Think of it like a grammar traffic light. When a postposition comes along later in the sentence, the light turns yellow, and ka shifts to ke. It's a crucial signal that tells listeners, "Hey, the word structure is about to get interesting!"
How This Grammar Works
Hindi nouns are sensitive. If you put a postposition (like ko, se, men, par) after a masculine noun, that noun changes form. We call this the "Oblique Case." But here is the catch: ka acts like an adjective for the noun that follows it. If that following noun gets hit by the Oblique Case ray gun, ka gets hit too. It transforms into ke. It’s a domino effect. The postposition at the end affects the noun before it, which in turn affects the ka before that. Yes, even native speakers mess this up sometimes when speaking fast, but mastering this chain reaction is what makes you sound fluent.
Formation Pattern
- 1Here is the step-by-step recipe for this transformation:
- 2Start with the possessor (Owner).
- 3Add the possession particle
ka. - 4Add the possessed object (must be masculine).
- 5Add a postposition after the object (like
ko,men,se). - 6The Change: Because of step 4, the
kain step 2 becomeske. - 7Structure:
[Owner] + ke + [Object] + [Postposition] - 8Example:
- 9Normal:
Ram ka ghar(Ram's house) - 10With Postposition:
Ram ke ghar men(In Ram's house)
When To Use It
You use this pattern in two main situations. First, whenever the object being possessed is masculine and is followed by another postposition. For example, if you are talking about giving something *to* your friend's brother (dost ke bhai ko). Second, you use it with "Compound Postpositions." These are phrase-like prepositions that always start with ke, such as ke liye (for), ke saath (with), or ke paas (near). In these cases, the ke is non-negotiable. It’s built right into the phrase.
When Not To Use It
Don't use ke if the object possessed is feminine. Feminine nouns trigger ki, regardless of postpositions. So, "in Ram's car" is Ram ki gaadi men (not ke). Also, do not use ke if there is no postposition after the object (and the object is singular). "Ram's house is big" remains Ram ka ghar bada hai. The ka stays safe because no postposition is attacking the "house."
Common Mistakes
The biggest blunder is stopping the chain reaction halfway. Learners often remember to change the noun but forget to change the ka. They might say Ram ka ghar men (Wrong!) instead of Ram ke ghar men. It sounds clunky, like wearing one sneaker and one formal shoe. Another mistake is using ke with feminine words just because a postposition is there. Remember, Girl Power rules in Hindi: Feminine nouns keep ki strong, no matter what men or par try to do.
Contrast With Similar Patterns
Let's compare ka, ke, and ki.
ka: Masculine singular object, no postposition. (Direct case)ke: Masculine object WITH postposition (Oblique case) OR Masculine Plural object.ki: Feminine object (Direct or Oblique - it doesn't care).
Think of ke as the "flexible" version of ka. It bends when pressure is applied by a postposition.
Quick FAQ
Q. Does ke always mean plural?
A. No! This is a common myth. Ke can be singular oblique (one house, but "in" it) OR plural direct (many houses). Context is your best friend here.
Q. What about names?
A. Names follow the same rule. Rahul ka becomes Rahul ke if you say "to Rahul's father" (Rahul ke papa ko).
Q. Why do we have to change it? Can't I just say ka?
A. You could, but you would sound like a robot with a rusty voice box. The flow of Hindi relies on these agreements. It connects the words smoothly.
Reference Table
| Case | Gender | Pattern | Example |
|---|---|---|---|
| Direct | Masc | Noun + ka + Noun | Ram ka ghar (Ram's house) |
| Oblique | Masc | Noun + ke + Noun + Postposition | Ram ke ghar men (In Ram's house) |
| Compound | N/A | Noun + ke + [Compound] | Ram ke liye (For Ram) |
| Plural | Masc | Noun + ke + Nouns | Ram ke dost (Ram's friends) |
| Mistake | Masc | Noun + ka + Noun + Postposition | Ram ka ghar men (INCORRECT) |
| Fem (Contrast) | Fem | Noun + ki + Noun + Postposition | Ram ki car men (In Ram's car) |
The 'Block' Method
Treat phrases like `ke liye` (for) or `ke saath` (with) as single blocks of vocabulary. Don't translate `ke` separately. Just memorize: `Mere liye` = For me.
Feminine Immunity
Feminine nouns are immune to the 'Ke' virus. Even with postpositions, `ki` stays `ki`. Example: `Ram ki car men` (In Ram's car).
Respect is Plural
If you are talking about someone older (Dad, Teacher), you use `ke` even if there is no postposition, because respect is treated as grammatical plural. `Papa ke jootey` (Dad's shoes).
Politeness Checker
Using `ke` correctly is a sign of an educated speaker. Mixing up `ka` and `ke` in compound phrases like `mere ko` (slang/incorrect) vs `mujh ko` is a common marker of casual vs. formal speech.
예시
8मैं राहुल के घर में हूँ।
Focus: ke
I am in Rahul's house.
Standard oblique usage.
यह चाय पापा के लिए है।
Focus: ke liye
This tea is for father.
Compound postposition usage.
मेरे दोस्त के भाई को बुलाओ।
Focus: ke
Call my friend's brother.
'Ko' triggers the change in 'bhai', which changes 'ka' to 'ke'.
कमरे के अंदर कौन है?
Focus: ke andar
Who is inside the room?
Spatial compound postposition.
भाई का दोस्त आया, लेकिन मैंने भाई के दोस्त को नहीं देखा।
Focus: ke
The brother's friend came, but I didn't see the brother's friend.
Contrast: Subject (ka) vs Object with 'ko' (ke).
✗ राम का घर से दूर (Ram ka ghar se door) → ✓ राम के घर से दूर (Ram ke ghar se door)
Focus: ke
Far from Ram's house.
'Se' requires the oblique 'ke'.
✗ मेरे पिता का साथ (Mere pita ka saath) → ✓ मेरे पिता के साथ (Mere pita ke saath)
Focus: ke
With my father.
'Saath' is a compound postposition, always takes 'ke'.
शर्मा जी के बेटे डॉक्टर हैं।
Focus: ke
Sharma-ji's son is a doctor.
Here 'ke' shows respect (honorific plural) even if the son is one person.
셀프 테스트
Choose the correct possessive particle based on the sentence structure.
Yeh Raj ___ bag hai.
No postposition follows 'bag', and it is singular masculine. So we use the direct 'ka'.
Fill in the blank to complete the oblique phrase.
Raj ___ bag men kya hai?
Because 'men' (in) follows 'bag', 'bag' becomes oblique, forcing 'ka' to change to 'ke'.
Select the correct particle for the compound postposition.
School ___ paas ek park hai.
'Paas' (near) is a compound postposition that always forms the phrase 'ke paas'.
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시각 학습 자료
Ka vs. Ke: The Showdown
Do I use 'Ke'?
Is the possessed object masculine?
Is there a postposition (ko, se, men) after it?
Result
Common 'Ke' Compounds
Location
- • ke paas (near)
- • ke andar (inside)
- • ke ūpar (on top of)
Relation
- • ke saath (with)
- • ke liye (for)
- • ke bina (without)
자주 묻는 질문
21 질문It changes to show agreement with the noun that follows it. If that noun is in the oblique case (because of a postposition), ka must also bow down and become ke.
Not always! While ke is used for plurals (like Ram ke kutte - Ram's dogs), it is also used for singulars in the oblique case (like Ram ke kutte ko - To Ram's dog).
Then you ignore ke completely. Feminine nouns use ki in both direct and oblique cases. Ram ki billi (Ram's cat) and Ram ki billi ko (To Ram's cat).
You say Ghar ke paas. Paas requires the connector ke.
No, that is incorrect. It sounds broken to a native speaker. It must be Ram ke ghar men.
Yes! Mera (my) changes to Mere in the same situations. Mera ghar (My house) becomes Mere ghar men (In my house).
Yes, ke liye is a fixed phrase meaning 'for'. You never say ka liye or ki liye.
People will still understand you, but it will sound like 'baby talk' or a strong foreign accent.
Yes. If you are talking about someone you respect, you use the plural/oblique forms. Gandhi-ji ke vichaar (Gandhi-ji's thoughts).
It's a phrase that acts like a preposition but is made of two words, usually ke + word. Examples: ke saath (with), ke baare men (about).
No. Ke comes *before* the noun, and ko comes *after*. Ram ke bhai ko (To Ram's brother).
Yes. Ki is strictly for feminine ownership or relationships. Ke is for masculine oblique or masculine plural.
Take simple 'ka' phrases and add 'men' (in) or 'par' (on) to the end. Force yourself to change the 'ka' to 'ke'.
It sounds like the 'ca' in 'cake'. Pronounce it like 'Kay'.
It's a shape-shift nouns undergo when they are followed by a postposition. It's the 'getting ready' form of a word.
Very few for this specific rule. It's one of the most consistent rules in Hindi grammar.
Sort of. Ka/Ke/Ki all mean 'of', but English uses word order while Hindi uses these little tags.
Yes, usually Ghar se door (Far from house) or Ghar ke paas (Near house). But door itself doesn't always take ke directly like paas does.
Yes, Urdu and Hindi share this grammar point entirely.
Both adjectives change! Mera bada bhai (My big brother) -> Mere bade bhai ko (To my big brother).
Yes, in Roman Hindi (Hinglish) and Devanagari (के), it is written separately.
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