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Linking Thoughts and Logic
Two-Part Conjunctions: weder... noch
Use `weder... noch` to elegantly reject two possibilities at once without needing any additional negative words like `nicht`.
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Used to negate two options simultaneously.
- Equivalent to English 'neither... nor'.
- No extra 'nicht' or 'kein' is required.
- Connects equal parts like nouns, adjectives, or verbs.
Quick Reference
| Function | Structure | English Equivalent |
|---|---|---|
| Negating Nouns | weder [Nomen] noch [Nomen] | neither [noun] nor [noun] |
| Negating Adjectives | weder [Adj] noch [Adj] | neither [adj] nor [adj] |
| Negating Verbs | weder [Verb] noch [Verb] | neither [verb] nor [verb] |
| Negating Clauses | ..., weder [S+V] noch [V+S] | neither ... nor ... |
| Verb Agreement | Agrees with the closest subject | Subject-verb proximity |
| Negation Rule | Never use with 'nicht' or 'kein' | No double negatives |
مثالهای کلیدی
3 از 8Ich trinke weder Kaffee noch Tee.
I drink neither coffee nor tea.
Das Auto ist weder neu noch teuer.
The car is neither new nor expensive.
Weder meine Brüder noch mein Vater geht ins Kino.
Neither my brothers nor my father is going to the cinema.
The No-Nicht Zone
Never use 'nicht' with 'weder... noch'. It's like wearing a raincoat inside a shower—totally unnecessary and messy.
The Neighbor Verb Rule
If you have a plural subject and a singular subject, the verb should match whoever is standing right next to it. It's the 'nearest neighbor' rule of grammar.
The Rule in 30 Seconds
- Used to negate two options simultaneously.
- Equivalent to English 'neither... nor'.
- No extra 'nicht' or 'kein' is required.
- Connects equal parts like nouns, adjectives, or verbs.
Overview
Have you ever wanted to say "No" twice in one sentence? Well, weder... noch is your best friend. It is the German equivalent of "neither... nor." Think of it as a double rejection. You use it when you have two options. You don't want the first one. You don't want the second one either. It is a powerful way to be precise. It makes your German sound polished and elegant. Instead of using nicht twice, you use this pair. It links two equal parts of a sentence together. These can be nouns, adjectives, or even whole clauses. It is like a grammar bridge with two negative towers. Using it correctly shows you have reached a B2 level. It feels much more natural than saying "not X and also not Y."
How This Grammar Works
This structure belongs to the family of "two-part conjunctions." In German, we call these mehrteilige Konjunktionen. They work as a team. The first part weder introduces the first negative item. The second part noch introduces the second one. Symmetry is the most important rule here. If you start with a noun, follow with a noun. If you start with a verb, follow with a verb. It is like balancing a scale. You are essentially saying "Zero plus Zero equals Zero." You do not need the word nicht at all. The conjunctions themselves already carry the negative meaning. Adding nicht would be a double negative mistake. This would confuse people or sound like a bad translation. Think of it like a light switch. weder... noch turns the light off for two things at once.
Formation Pattern
- 1Pick two items or actions you want to reject.
- 2Start your thought or sentence normally.
- 3Place
wederdirectly before the first rejected item. - 4Place the first item (noun, adjective, or verb) right after.
- 5Place
nochdirectly before the second rejected item. - 6Add the second item immediately after
noch. - 7Check your verb position in the sentence.
- 8If you connect two full sentences, use a comma before
noch. - 9If you connect just words or phrases, no comma is needed.
When To Use It
Imagine you are at a fancy restaurant. The waiter asks if you want sparkling or still water. You are on a budget and just want tap water. You say: "Ich möchte weder stilles noch Sprudelwasser." It sounds much more polite than just saying "No." You can also use it in a job interview. Maybe they ask if you speak French or Russian. You might say: "Ich spreche weder Französisch noch Russisch." It sounds professional and clear. It is great for describing weather too. "Heute ist es weder warm noch sonnig." It is perfect for those gray Berlin days. Use it when you want to rule out possibilities. It is the ultimate tool for the picky eater. Or for someone who just knows exactly what they don't want.
When Not To Use It
Don't use it if you only dislike one thing. That would be lonely. Also, don't use it for positive choices. For that, you need sowohl... als auch. Some people try to use it with nicht. That is a big no-no. "Ich habe nicht weder Zeit noch Lust" is a disaster. It is like wearing two pairs of sunglasses at once. You can't see anything. Also, avoid using it if the items are not equal. You shouldn't connect a noun with a long sub-clause usually. It makes the sentence feel lopsided and heavy. Keep it simple and balanced for the best effect. If you are choosing between two things (one or the other), use entweder... oder. weder... noch is only for when both are rejected.
Common Mistakes
The biggest trap is the double negative. People often slip a nicht into the sentence. Forget nicht when you use weder. Another mistake is the verb agreement. If you have two subjects, which one does the verb follow? Usually, the verb agrees with the subject closest to it. For example: "Weder meine Eltern noch meine Schwester kommt." Note that kommt is singular because of Schwester. Many learners also forget the comma rule. Only use a comma if noch starts a new clause. If it's just two words, leave the comma out. Sometimes people swap the order. They might say noch... weder by mistake. That will definitely get you some confused looks. It is like trying to put your shoes on before your socks.
Contrast With Similar Patterns
Let's look at the cousins of this grammar point. First, we have sowohl... als auch. This means "both... and." It is the happy, positive version of our rule. Then there is nicht nur... sondern auch. This means "not only... but also." It adds extra emphasis to the second part. Finally, we have entweder... oder. This is the "either... or" choice. It is like a fork in the road. weder... noch is the dead end for both paths. While entweder... oder forces a choice, weder... noch rejects all options. It is helpful to learn these as a set. They are the building blocks of complex German sentences. Once you master one, the others become much easier to understand.
Quick FAQ
Q. Can I use it for three items?
A. Yes, just add more noch parts like a chain.
Q. Does it sound too formal for friends?
A. No, it just sounds like you know German well.
Q. Where does the verb go if I start with weder?
A. The verb stays in position 2, as always.
Q. Do I need a comma every time?
A. No, only when connecting two full main clauses.
Q. Is the meaning always negative?
A. Yes, it always means "not this and not that."
Q. Can I use it with adjectives?
A. Absolutely, like "weder groß noch klein."
Q. Does it work with verbs?
A. Yes, "Ich kann weder singen noch tanzen."
Q. Is it common in spoken German?
A. It is very common in both speech and writing.
Reference Table
| Function | Structure | English Equivalent |
|---|---|---|
| Negating Nouns | weder [Nomen] noch [Nomen] | neither [noun] nor [noun] |
| Negating Adjectives | weder [Adj] noch [Adj] | neither [adj] nor [adj] |
| Negating Verbs | weder [Verb] noch [Verb] | neither [verb] nor [verb] |
| Negating Clauses | ..., weder [S+V] noch [V+S] | neither ... nor ... |
| Verb Agreement | Agrees with the closest subject | Subject-verb proximity |
| Negation Rule | Never use with 'nicht' or 'kein' | No double negatives |
The No-Nicht Zone
Never use 'nicht' with 'weder... noch'. It's like wearing a raincoat inside a shower—totally unnecessary and messy.
The Neighbor Verb Rule
If you have a plural subject and a singular subject, the verb should match whoever is standing right next to it. It's the 'nearest neighbor' rule of grammar.
Polite Rejection
Germans value precision. Using 'weder... noch' in a formal setting shows you are focused and articulate, making you sound very professional.
Chain Rejection
You can add a third 'noch' if you're really having a bad day. 'Weder Regen, noch Schnee, noch Wind'—just keep the chain going!
مثالها
8Ich trinke weder Kaffee noch Tee.
Focus: weder Kaffee noch Tee
I drink neither coffee nor tea.
Standard usage connecting two objects.
Das Auto ist weder neu noch teuer.
Focus: weder neu noch teuer
The car is neither new nor expensive.
Describes a subject with two negative qualities.
Weder meine Brüder noch mein Vater geht ins Kino.
Focus: geht
Neither my brothers nor my father is going to the cinema.
The verb 'geht' is singular because 'Vater' is singular.
Er konnte weder die Aufgabe lösen, noch wollte er Hilfe annehmen.
Focus: noch wollte er
He could neither solve the task nor did he want to accept help.
Note the comma used to separate full clauses.
Weder der Termin noch der Ort wurde bisher bestätigt.
Focus: weder der Termin noch der Ort
Neither the date nor the location has been confirmed yet.
Common in business emails or official news.
✗ Ich habe nicht weder Zeit noch Geld. → ✓ Ich habe weder Zeit noch Geld.
Focus: weder Zeit noch Geld
I have neither time nor money.
Removing the extra 'nicht' is essential.
✗ Er ist weder müde oder hungrig. → ✓ Er ist weder müde noch hungrig.
Focus: noch
He is neither tired nor hungry.
Don't swap 'noch' for 'oder'.
Dieses Projekt ist weder realistisch, noch finanzierbar, noch notwendig.
Focus: noch finanzierbar, noch notwendig
This project is neither realistic, nor financable, nor necessary.
You can add more than two items by repeating 'noch'.
خودت رو بسنج
Complete the sentence with the correct two-part conjunction.
Ich spreche ___ Spanisch ___ Italienisch.
Since we want to express that both languages are not spoken, 'weder... noch' is the only choice.
Choose the correct verb form for the sentence.
Weder die Lehrer noch der Schüler ___ die Antwort.
The verb agrees with the closest subject, which is 'der Schüler' (singular).
Identify the missing part of the rejection.
Der Film war weder lustig ___ spannend.
The counterpart to 'weder' is always 'noch' when negating both items.
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ابزارهای بصری یادگیری
Selection Types
Deciding on Negation
Do you want to negate TWO things?
Are you connecting full clauses?
Are the clauses independent?
Real World Rejections
Job Skills
- • Weder Java noch Python
- • Weder Excel noch Word
Dining
- • Weder Fleisch noch Fisch
- • Weder Wein noch Bier
سوالات متداول
22 سوالIt means 'neither... nor'. You use it to say that two different things are both not true or not desired.
Only if 'noch' introduces a new clause with its own subject and verb. If you're just listing words like weder Brot noch Butter, you don't need one.
Yes, it is very common. Just remember that the verb must still be in the second position of the sentence, like Weder er noch ich haben Zeit.
Absolutely. You can say weder A noch B noch C. It's like a list where everything is rejected.
It usually follows the second subject because it's closer to the verb. For example, Weder die Kinder noch die Mutter ist da uses a singular verb for the mother.
If 'Weder X noch Y' is the subject, the verb comes immediately after. If it's the object, the verb stays in its normal second position.
No, never. Using nicht with weder creates a double negative that is grammatically incorrect in German.
It is used in both, but it sounds slightly more sophisticated than just repeating und auch nicht. It's great for writing essays or business letters.
You place weder before the first infinitive and noch before the second. For example: Ich kann weder schwimmen noch tauchen.
Yes, but be careful with word order. In the second part after noch, the verb often moves to position 1, like ..., noch wollte er gehen.
While weder... noch rejects both options, entweder... oder forces you to choose exactly one of them.
It is technically a correlative conjunction. It works together with noch to link parts of a sentence.
No, you should use nouns without articles or with definite articles. Weder Zeit noch Geld is better than trying to fit kein in there.
Yes, the logic is almost identical to 'neither... nor'. If you understand the English version, you're halfway there.
Yes, you can say weder mit dir noch ohne dich. It's very flexible!
Of course. Er war weder zu Hause noch im Büro. The tense doesn't change how the conjunctions work.
English speakers often want to use 'or' instead of 'noch'. Remember: it's always weder... noch, never weder... oder.
Yes, it is standard across all German-speaking countries. The usage remains the same.
You can add a pause after weder for dramatic effect in speech. Ich bin... weder bereit... noch gewillt!
It's tricky. Usually, we say ein weder schönes noch praktisches Haus. It's grammatically okay but less common than using it after the verb.
Definitely. It is a key structure that examiners look for to award higher marks for sentence variety.
Yes, like Weder du noch ich wissen es. Note that plural verbs are often used when 'ich' and 'du' are combined.
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